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Utterly Confused
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CTR B
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:16 pm Posts: 85
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Thank you, guys. You have all been so extremely helpful to me during this time. I feel as the days go by it is getting easier. I'm thankful to have a handful of friends like all of you as well as my family and my friends here. Everyone has been very supportive. Everytime each of you open up a little more about your experience with this "religion", it just reinstates that I have to move on. Obviously, you all know more than me and it scares me to think that I would have suffered worse later on and with children involved, no less. I will always love him and he will always hold a special place in my heart because he was different than anyone I have ever met (not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing  ), but I will continue to move on and look forward-not back. He won't be the only one finding happiness that I know. Plus, i've cleaned house. I finally mustered up the courage to gather everything he ever gave me took it my yard and lit it on fire. My neighbors thought I was bbq-ing. I've deleted all his photos from my computer, blocked his number from cell phone, deleted his playlist from my ipod o and took a nice pair of scissors to some pajama pants he made for me last christmas (yes, he sews), a pair of the same he made for everyone in his family because he wanted me to feel like part of the family. Yesterday I did cry a little. I figure if I can let it out when the need arises, it will help me get stronger. So, I am getting there! 
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CTR B
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:15 pm Posts: 86
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Woohoo! That must feel good!
And now on to a new happier life ....
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CTR B
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:16 pm Posts: 85
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Yes, getting there slowly. Hope you all had a great weekend.
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CTR B
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:16 am Posts: 84
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It isn't easy if a mormon cuts you out of his life so fast, but hopefully in the end you realize that you are ''lucky'' that it happened this way because you are free! 
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CTR B
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:16 pm Posts: 85
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Yes, it seems "lucky" is the word i've heard a lot on here regarding my situation. As much as I will never understand it and his behavior or reasons for it, I do feel I am lucky. We would have had serious problems later on. I think his blackeyes would have raised cause for concern. 
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God of Mythbusters
Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:30 am Posts: 3643 Location: Kolobian Lowlands
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Being the guy that I am Tris, just exactly how would he have gotten those 'black eyes' you mentioned? At one time, I actually looked forward to getting a couple now and then...At one time, Insanad, evidently, was good at dishing those out too...have you two been collaborating?
This thought must be spillover from the Sex thread....
_________________ "When authority masquerades as a power, a simple question will unmask it."
"Just because you think, feel, or believe something is true, doesn't make it true!"
"The doubt of your faith, is not God testing you, but truth trying to emerge and free you."
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CTR B
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:16 pm Posts: 85
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haha! From me knocking him off his block a few times. Believe me he tested my nerves plenty a times when he'd get "preachy" on me. O his holyness and his perfect virtue of no wrong doings - ever! When i'm a polar opposite; I actually enjoy making mistakes in my life and learning from them. He was way too exhausting always being so perfect. Little does he know he probably gave me the lesson of a lifetime, but he left with no black eyes. grrr! 
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CTR B
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:16 pm Posts: 85
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LATEST MESSAGE AT WORK: I get to work this morning and on my voicemail message was a message from him, can someone translate because I don't get it and the message was as follows: "Hi, I am sorry for how things went down but I want you to know I don't hate you and I forgive you."  Now can i give him a blackeye?! Sheesh I just want him to go away! I don't understand this as if what he did wasn't torture enough now I have to hear from him almost a month after it all went down! I'm shaken by this. I feel like he is playing with my heart now. Ugh, this sucks! of course, with the anger come the tears. He is breaking me apart inside. I do not understand.
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CTR B
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:16 am Posts: 84
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Hahaha my ex told me the same  ''I forgive you''. I don't know if mormons have to ''forgive'' in order to be a good and true believer? But why does HE have to forgive you? As if you have done something terribly wrong... pff is that arrogance or just something else ?
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Dipsnort
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Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:21 am Posts: 1361 Location: Seattle Suburbanite
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Utterly Confused wrote: LATEST MESSAGE AT WORK: "Hi, I am sorry for how things went down but I want you to know I don't hate you and I forgive you."
Knowing what we know about this guy, here is your translation... "I'm a socially deficient, childish idiot with a Mormon-stained brain and an imaginary priesthood which forces me to believe that I'm more powerful and important than you and other non-Mormons, and, uh, I want to control your thoughts and emotions again like I used to". My advice? Ignore him for as many times as is necessary until he stops and moves on to the next victim. You're welcome. 
_________________ Dipsnort, sniper of truth and aspiring Harriet Tubman of Mormonism
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Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:46 pm Posts: 5678
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He forgives you? Well ain't that just rich?
I don't know if I'd ignore him or hit him with both barrels. I'd be pretty mad.
Perhaps I'd say, "You forgive me? What, pray tell, am I being forgiven for. You know what? Just go away and don't bother me again."
_________________ "A mind stretched by a new idea can never go back to its original dimensions." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
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CTR B
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:16 pm Posts: 85
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I sent him a voice note telling him to leave me alone and to not worry about forgiving me but to work on forgiving himself for being a piss poor human and walking away when i needed him most. Told him to man up and deal with it. He messed up he betrayed me and to get over it! That i was done with him! O yea and I did add in that he should go back to being manipulated and to prove my point I sent him a few links on here to educate himself via text. (they will probably scare him). That he was the liar and that it was over between us two and there was nothing left to talk about. (I was pretty proud of myself it was a brave voice note!) He called and left me a few messages at works since i'm guessing he realized he's blocked on my phone. They were senseless chatter things like "i'm doing great btw", "I'm happy here where I am, without you." Things like I don't know what i'm talking about and he's not manipulated he thinks for himself, blah blah blah. I don't think there is anything this fool can say to me that can actually affect me anymore. I woke up in a great mood today. I've been feeling better and better daily since my surgery and am finally feeling more like myself. How ironic that on my first day feeling great to the point where I was singing while walking to work I get an call from this turd. My thing is this. If he is done with me and turned his back on me why now? 3 weeks almost a month later?! Why is he is pestering me! He is the one that walked away, I just don't understand what his unfinished business with me is?! Dare i say he's miserable? well that would just put a smile on my face. haha! 
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Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:46 pm Posts: 5678
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I guess the more he acts weird like this, the more it's helping you to realize you got away from a nut case. What kind of immature person breaks up with someone and then can't leave them alone? And then he has the gall to say idiotic things like, "He forgives you?" Say, what? What an idiot. Come to think of it, that sounds a lot like the LDS Church. Can't leave you alone, and blames you for the break-up.
_________________ "A mind stretched by a new idea can never go back to its original dimensions." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
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CTR B
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:15 pm Posts: 86
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He simply doesn't know how to move on. He is dealing with the break up like a little kid. He may be trying to manipulate you to come back to him in this silly way or just torture you. As long as he can get you to respond in some way, he's happy, even if it comes as emotional abuse. You are much better off without these mind games and silly plays ... There is nothing for him to forgive you, he should be asking for your forgiveness.
I would delete his messages without listening to them to the end ... I think the only way he's going to stop torturing you like this and trying to prove to himself that he was right all along is if he doesn't get any response from you.
You are right, he is wrong, but you have no obligation to him after what he did to you. I think all of us here are on your side as anybody with a sound mind would.
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CTR B
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:16 pm Posts: 85
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You are right and against my better judgement I texted him. Looking back at it now I regret that I even responded. Unfortunately, I can be a little hot-headed at times and I react before I think sometimes. I have to work on that. I can't let him get a rise out of me. My mom is funny she says to me if he's doing so great why is he advertising it to you?! That makes no sense to me usually people that are content and happy with where they are almost never have to say it out loud.
He is emotionally trying to break me. I have to remain strong. I did cry last night because the things he said were extremely mean. He talked to me like trash when I was always so good and so devoted to him. Live and learn I guess. I'll get there. Thank you, guys!
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Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:46 pm Posts: 5678
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He clearly has some serious problems. It's a good thing you know that now.
I certainly don't blame you for responding back. What he said was unbelievable. I hate it when Mormons turn things around and throw guilt at you, as though you've done something wrong, when you haven't.
It's such a Mormon thing to do.
What an idiot. You should definitely totally ignore him, but again, I don't blame you for getting mad at that one. He's really being totally out-of-line.
_________________ "A mind stretched by a new idea can never go back to its original dimensions." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
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Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:21 am Posts: 1361 Location: Seattle Suburbanite
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Utterly Confused wrote: You are right and against my better judgement I texted him. Looking back at it now I regret that I even responded. You should have listened to my advice yesterday. You're like my kids who get burned every time they fail to take my free advice, which is often in their case! But I hear ya, easier said than done when you just want to throttle the guy. 
_________________ Dipsnort, sniper of truth and aspiring Harriet Tubman of Mormonism
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Rainfeather
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Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:46 pm Posts: 5678
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If you say nothing, then it looks like you're admitting to what he's saying, so I can understand you wanting to defend yourself.
So what you need to do is the next time he texts you, say quite firmly, "Enough with these ridiculous games. I will not be responding to you again," and mean it. Stick to your guns.
No matter what he texts back, resist, and walk away. You don't need to keep putting yourself through this torture. It only takes longer to heal, because you're not truly out of the situation.
_________________ "A mind stretched by a new idea can never go back to its original dimensions." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
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CTR B
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:16 pm Posts: 85
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I will work on it and be strong and not give into going back and forth with him anymore. I hope he is done. It's time to move on. I know I am certainly trying. Thank you, again.
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