You have asked a question about mormonism - about its god, heavens, cosmology, whatever - and you get the answer, "That isn't necessary for your salvation." As though that were a "non sequitor". It is not. There are many things that would seem to be unnecessary for our salvation. Why do we need soil samples from the moon? If a Mormon studies those soil samples, is he in danger of losing his priesthood, because he is getting caught up in things not "essential" for salvation?

Once a prophet or apostle speaks publicly, however, isn't what they say, acceptable food for thought? We are told to study and discuss the teachings of the "living prophets", even the dead "living prophets".

Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 142, said, I did not bring that up. The Prophet of the Lord (which lord?) brought it up. So isn't it fair and right to ask, how many times, and when, and where, Jesus was upon the earth? Or if that is too much to ask, could we at least ask for a range: was he upon the earth less than ten times or more than ten times? Less than a hundred, or more than a hundred? Didn't they keep records of his visits? Presumably, yes. When did they keep records, if they failed so utterly, that they, their records, and even legend of his appearances to them, are non-existent? Why don't we have the records of those visits? If the records haven't been revealed yet, why not? Why have records, if there no one has access to them? Since these are the latter-days, there isn't much time left to get them and actually benefit from them. If they are being reserved for the Millennium, whose stupid idea was that - (1) everything has been restored; (2) we are supposed to believe by faith, not be evidence, not by evidence provided by records; (3) we will have direct access to Jesus during the Millennium, and he will have told us everything we need to know anyway; so the records would be superfluous.

Brigham Young made up stuff.
Silly stuff.
Unsupportable stuff.
Cult-of-personality-promoting lies.

Ok, that's a double dog dare Abinadi. Now I'm gonna post photos of Jesus sightings. He's like Elvis and has been all over the place since his untimely death. This is going to get down right irreverent so you'd better strap yourself in and cover your head. The shyte is gonna fly.

Here's how the whole Jesus gets sacrificed thing got started:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzuxyq3ltls

So these two videos explain a little of the tension between Joseph and Mary and why it sucks to be the step father.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOg3ZR7iT5s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCmha2oT ... re=related

But as for Christ making a second, third, or even fifth coming and going on a world tour, that stuff is a little sketchy. These images might not be absolute proof but a sighting can inspire a spontaneous temporary reprieve from herpes or validate someones choice to join Amway. In that, they do have quantifiable power.


Jesus on a terrier butt


Jesus on a fish stick

Top 10 Jesus Sightings, including Messiah of the Molars, Pancake Prophet, Pizza Hut and Shower Jesus, Tailgate Jesus and Couch Jesus, and the Jesus Nebula.
http://www.thesharkguys.com/lists/holy- ... sightings/




Here is one that gives meaning to the saying, "Bless us Cheesus!"



not to be outdone, here's barbecue sauce Jesus

http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/ ... -year.html

He then went on to appear on the bottom of an iron, a cookie pan, a kit kat bar, a maple leaf, a mens room door, Mars image from Nasa, toilet seat, and the wall of a lumber yard.

The guy gets around. Brigham Young was correct on this prophecy. Truth restored!

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He appears a lot in Mexico and in hispanic neighborhoods for some odd reason. A lot less to religious leaders from the Pope to BigTom to Reverend Ike to Jesse Jackson.

So, what you're all saying, it sounds like, is,
this one time,
Brigham Young did get it right!

It's clear He was on the earth many times in the 1800's in the manifestation young virginal girls. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young knew this, hence why they went after all those young virginal girls, so they could get in deep connection with Jesus, really deep and hot connection. Of course if they did this today they would get thrown in jail for many years and put on a list for life.

Jesus in potato chips and barbecue sauce.

Catholic mass should be way more popular now.

Haven't you all heard faith promoting stories about him walking the halls of his holy temples after hours. Well didn't you believe them?

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"I don't know that we teach that...I don't know that we emphasize that!"

BY can't be wrong all the time.

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Ask questions and Family is no longer forever and more often not even for time.
"I don't know that we teach that...I don't know that we emphasize that!"

He appears to all new apostles and the profit. I'm still waiting for my visitation. Maybe when I turn into a profit.

Dansdone: I asked about Jesus walking the halls after hours, and if so why would anyone vacuum the carpets and erase his footprints? Does that mean the vacuum bags are sacred now too?
A ga once told my father that's why they needed so many temples worldwide- so you never were out of sight of the building where JC might be strolling 'round about midnight.

Yea, those are great faith and awe inspiring stories about the late nite strolls in the temples by the Lord. Wonder why he visits after hours late at night and what is his business there? Same thing happens on the tv show ghost hunters, ghost like to come out at night when the lights go out. Can't figure out why?

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Ask questions and Family is no longer forever and more often not even for time.
"I don't know that we teach that...I don't know that we emphasize that!"

Little known fact: God has demanded that Monson build more temples with the purpose of having one for each of his wives. The ghost wife hangs out in the celestial room waiting for the "stroke" of midnight when the good lord "goes down" to have celestial relations with them to continue repopulating the earth. Each of his planets has a number of temples for this very purpose, as you might have guessed.

I once hid in the Seattle temple overnight and heard a woman's voice saying "Pay lay ale, come through the veil!"

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Yeah, and Pay Lay Ale (not our own Pay Lay from here on the forum, but a Mormon Pay Lay Ale) replied, "I will through the veil, on the five points of fellowship." and then one of his old coot buddies said, "Women, cover your faces" and then the ladies say in unison, "We will go down". The fellers all smirk and snort and say in unison, "return and report'. Then they all go hie to Kolob.

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Dipsnort, with a click of the mouse you can find your own illustrations but watch out for virus's. They can cause hard drive warts, data herpes, and other nasty illnesses that are very difficult to treat. (so i've heard)

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Great photo Abinadi.

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Pissing in the Mormon Koolaide one post at a time. LIE PINOCCHIO!!! LIE!!!!

One cannot count the number of times the Savior has been on this earth. That is if you are more influenced with emotional rather than intellectual stimuli.


Mary Elizabeth Rollins: Autobiography


We can see this same kind of crap in LDS services today and for that matter evangelical tv everyday.

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Ask questions and Family is no longer forever and more often not even for time.
"I don't know that we teach that...I don't know that we emphasize that!"